Foolishness to the Gentiles Such was not, however, the case for those to whom the good news of Jesus Christ was first proposed. Stephen Bullivant Stephen Bullivant is lecturer in theology and ethics at St. Show Comments 2. Comments are automatically closed two weeks after an article's initial publication. See our comments policy for more. Mercy too, is so often foolish, looney it would seem, extending itself not only to the deserving, but to the undeserving in an equal way.
Take Faith seriously and you'll discover it can be found - look for it! It can be lost - find it! Having recently crossed the Tiber from a low church tradition, I would add that the shape that liturgy has taken is a further challenge to Catholic apologetics.
We would do well to draw attention to the contrast of the rawness of the Crucifixion expressed now in gold, marble, and embroidery. Most popular. Can we please stop idolizing the decadent lifestyles that are destroying our planet? Are racial justice movements straying from Catholic tradition — or are Catholic leaders out of touch? But what about the Holy Spirit?
The common good is at stake. School President. Hidden Mercy. Home Health , Spiritual Resources. Your story may be true, and many women really are like that. You also fail to realize the pain children face from the choices their parents make.
You did come in an interrupt any chance at restoration. That may not have been likely, but spend a bit of time understanding where the son was coming from and perhaps you would have a bit more compassion yourself. I will still not leave my faith, for that is all that has kept me these many years, but it sucks far more than you realize. Quit blaming others, especially even adult children, for their pain.
Have you done nothing harsh yourself that greatly hurt others? Maybe you are a special snowflake, but I doubt that. I have yet to find one today. Being weird is to be expected for anyone who pushes against the flow today, even though the truly weird ones are those pushing for more and more junk in life. I realized a couple of years ago I will never likely be close to others because of those reasons.
I also find people like the author here very judgmental himself. Only he reserves his judgment for those he should often support! We are told to come out from amoung them and not stay in these dead churchs which is offering nothing but strong delusions to believe a lie to be dammed with.
The seat of the scornful local church by their inequity and hyprocracy to the words of the bible. These lukewarm preachers twice dead and plucked up by the roots want people in the church to play church while looking for your pocketbook by using vain deceit. Wolves in sheeps clothing. Sunday School sing song service, tithes, parties, vain deceit, sports games, and carnal worldly events to fill their belly, divorce remarry times adulterer Sunday school teachers and choir leaders, and programs, and pocketbook leaving man empty in their soul.
All we have in church is nothing but skeletons walking in as no flesh and blood of Jesus the Son of God is preached which is his words as they are spirit and life John The preacher wants you to endorse them filling up their sins and feasting off your sin instead of giving them up. Jesus told us not to labour for the meat that perishes but that which endures unto everlasting life.
The preacher can make a nice cheese sandwich with all the trimming but he sure can not make you a feast to sit at the table of Christ to eat and drink the flesh and blood of Jesus. Man loves all these deceivers instead of coming out and just wants to hear what the preachers says and not what they have to know. Mankind would rather go to hell in peace then be persecuted and go to heaven troubled. We who are born again have no business in these twice dead plucked up by the roots Sunday school churches offering nothing but strong delusions to believe a lie to be dammed to hell with and nothing for the saving of the soul.
John ] Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. Matthew [13] But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Mark ] He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Col 2:[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Acts ] Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. Philippians ] For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: [19] Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.
Col ] If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Ephesians ] Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Romans ] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Psalm ] Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. Ezekiel ] And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, [18] Son of man, the house of Israel is to me become dross: all they are brass, and tin, and iron, and lead, in the midst of the furnace; they are even the dross of silver. Amos ] Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: [12] And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.
Jeremiah ] Declare this in the house of Jacob, and publish it in Judah, saying, [21] Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not: [22] Fear ye not me? Why did God create so many very mentally disturbed women these days? I am still trying to figure that one out since most women these days are very mean and nasty to many of us good single men looking for love today.
A lot of very troubled women everywhere today that are very dangerous as well. What a very big mistake God really made there unfortunately. I do wonder the same things myself at times, but God is a lot higher than we are and judging Him by our standards is rather foolish and prideful, which fits so many today. God did not make nor wish someone to have handicaps or mental problems. They just happen for a million different reasons. Some are trapped into certain situations. Could be bullying, things taught by teachers or just things heard on the made up news which leaders which wish only for you to hear.
The reality of it all is that nothing stops bad, good or whatever things happening except maybe yourself. Though just being at the wrong place at the wrong time could seal ones fate. They happen just because it can. So being deranged, unfit, criminal or almost a Saint another fictional idea. Your life on Earth can end at 2 or for any reason that can possibly be explained. Things not of reality are not real until they are.
If something has never been heard, seen or done anything whatsoever does not exist until it shows. The wind blows and tears off your roof-weather-The plane dives into the ground -accident or engine failure, maybe even shot down. This we know. There is nothing to stop a bullet from target unless it misses or hits something else before you. Ever seen a invisible hand reach out and save someone? Who saved Joan of Arc? No one. Then the same organization that burned her to death makes her a Saint years later.
People make up rules along the way to suit their purposes. Add another billion or two things along the way of Mankind and you can see just what reality is. I will agree it does not hurt to have faith until that faith is destroyed by history.
People need to believe in something and if they are right-joyous. If not they will never know. Thank you for letting me post this. I think the many of us are so lost and disillusioned that we find ourselves searching for meaning in places like this.
Hoping that someone else has an understanding or a truth that resonates somewhere with us. I read a great many of the comments and while many of you may be much more well read or experienced in the word I feel you may be in the same place that I am. Still looking for a place to weigh anchor Or a shipworthy of sailing. The spirit of Jezebel is actively on this Earth, taking away your hopes of finding your Proverbs 31 wife.
The war for every soul rages around us. You look or follow that storm your bound to sink, Keep your eyes towards Jesus. I recently left Pentecostalism after 25 years for Reformed theology. I have noticed reformed spend a ton of time on social media attacking the beliefs of others. These constant arguments usually present themselves over subjects like infant baptism, free will, regeneration, loss or salvation or preservation of Saints.
Often I find these arguments end up causing more harm in the body of Christ than doing good. They usually result in anger and most times end with sly smart elic remarks and name calling. I wish the church would stop fighting amongst itself. Many could learn a lesson by reading John Newtons letter on controversy. I think fighting over every minute detail of scripture is a useless and often hateful endeavor that confuses people and cast a negative light on the faith when non believers witness all the internal fighting.
I love reformed doctrine. But what I have witnessed from reformed believers compared to 25 years of watching Pentecostal believers is appallingly different.
My apologies if I have failed this in any way, but I do try to edit my work before answering. Both books are equally very good and extremely enjoyable to read. Let us start cracking open those books right away to read and reread as many times as necessary.
Arguing is largely unproductive. It took me many decades to realize that and I still do it at times, but you are right. I believe what is written, whether it fits my experience or not.
I also could argue around many of the issues you note and find many holes in the Reformed view. Look up who Calvin really was sometime and you will see the foundation has some big challenges.
And Christianity will always have some echoes of the culture, whether some want to admit that or not. It would be far better if we all realized that and then confronted it in ourselves and our churches first, but few want to do that, especially the first, since it is painful to self! This is of course after you have not met with him for at least three or more months and have not even been coming to mass due to ilness.
Am sorry this is happening also other believers should help each other when there sick or not sick we are a body when one hurts we all hurt we all have to get back to 2 commands love the lord GOD with all and are neighbors as ourselves.
Thank you for your helpful comments. If God has never been seen, heard, photographed, recorded during any times of war, sickness, life or death nor comes to the aid of anyone whatsoever. Why would anyone believe in such a thing except for blind faith. That in itself tells one thing. That all of them but one are right or none are right. If a God can do this or that just because it is a God then why no appearances?
A God can come on your TV or internet and introduce itself. Notice I said itself. Not He nor She because first of all if God made of his likeness then a God could not exist billions of years if anything like a human or any creature for that matter. Also if God made us in his likeness then did a pretty bad job. Just look at us. Greed, hatred, waring for the last years with only years without wars. Is this what a God would wish for?
God allows for all this violence towards one another with out care. Is this what everyone wants? Just for a chance to believe in ever lasting life. When you are dead there is no life.
Your brain function ceases to exist. Your body lay where it is buried. It goes no where for eternity. Back to dust and part of the Universe. Is there was a God it no longer exists. Who or what could be a God, entity?
Be it one of shadow or spirt. If God was so powerful why would he need humans to write his words Could God not do his own writings? It appears not.
God does not call on a phone, does not appear on any devices, does not stop any bullet nor human hatefulness. So what this boils down to is when you die you will never know anything whatsoever again or you will maybe, just maybe go to another realm that no one knows where it is. God is so secret that if it was a fable you would know it is not real, period.
God does not care or want you to know anything. Okay you wish to believe, fine. Like saying God is somewhere but no idea where. Good luck. His first wife he was with 40 years because of religious doctrine and you know the bible thing marry one person live with them forever no matter what they do to you or how miserable they make you because if you leave them for someone that makes you happy you go to hell and burn in eternal flames.
Also she lies and steals so much!!! Typically I am against the church… And religious aspects all together. I am here as a person of extremely different beliefs and you are a genuine person acting as God would want. Your points are valid. Your opinion is very well said and, in my opinion, more people should look to you as a morally equipped person I hope you have power to change it.
One of the worse mistake a church commits is teaching in the church where the lost sheep are not present and never outside it where the lost sheep are dying. I left the church after 72 years. There were many more reasons, but I too feel like sticking to the Bible is the best strategy. It is foolish for churches to exchange the primary work of the gospel for the secondary work of doing good in the world.
Well speaking of church, there are so many very horrible women that go there as well. God forbid trying to start a conversation with a woman that we think would be nice too meet for many of us single guys after the mass is over, which then they will be so very nasty and many of times they will Curse us out for no reason too.
Very mentally disturbed women everywhere these days unfortunately, even in the house of God. What is that all about? Then again most women like you, really are very pathetic and total losers altogether to begin with anyway. Grow very old all alone with your cats. I would not let my daughter wear her clothes so short, so tight, and so half naked even at home.
Thats a woman and a half.! Going naked and raping men and turn to say they raped you yet you are naked.. I go to church that wears long gown. The Afrian Apostolic church I like it that way. Keep it up Joyce. You choose to skew scripture according to modern, liberal views. God is just not that way.
What he said from the beginning will always remain the same. They smile in your face, then talk about you. I mean think about it. God constantly tries to reassure everyone that Satan is evil.
But why? Kind of sounds like something the actual bad guy would do. And why would the bad guy punish the bad guys? Why would the option to burn in hell forever even be there if god was all loving, kind and forgiving?
And I believe the storylines are written by an unreliable narrator. Your anger is apparent. The first step — reach down and grab some maturity and figure out who are you really angry at. Are you angry at God, the church, society, your mother, or all of the above. The second step — educate yourself on the issues instead of relying on Google posts and Atheist sites to feed you information.
You certainly do not know who Satan is, nor his demons. Your arguments are based on your feelings — not facts. There is enough secular history written that verifies the Bible, much less the archeological data.
God is not trying to convince you or anyone else of anything. Neither am I. The Truth, the Way, and The Life are free. Paid for. I have studied. The Bible in phatic Lee says a relationship is between a man and a woman.
Christianity is not even a religion. It means to walk with Christ. No, which is why God sent Jesus. Study Jesus, stop studying the flawed human beings that are in every church.
Do you think you will ever find a church to your liking, given your too-high standards of morality? For example, Jesus denied any relationship outside of a man and a woman for life.
What we need to look at is what Jesus said about marriage. Christians, as well as Atheists, need to understand that. I totally understand your anger and feelings of rejection. All the poeple in your life seem to be false Prophets. There is this online study at Loyola Marymount University— two different Bible Groups that give you credit for studying both New and Old Testaments and the various books in it.
I am one of those lifelong who have questioned God and Curch Teaching while studing fervently the Word, doing my best to give to the maginalized and sick in our world. It is okay as well, contrary, to what most falsely teach in the Church that you cannot be angry with God.
If and when you choose to study, just like studying to be good in a sport or get your degree in something, you will find that most in the church, inclduing leaders, are the false teachers of God. You will find more consolation in the True Saints and prophets of God and who have been angry with God. They had a very close relationship with God and God can take it.
The Diary of St. Faustina is one Saint Teresa of Avila So many— follow those authentic Saints, while abandoning the hypocricy int the Church. Yes Amen, you said everything I wanted to say many have tried to prove the bible wrong and gotten saved cause there is so much proof. Many of us have had a hell experience of people who praise the Lord yet do evil and the churches are full of these evil people, my own experience I sent a large amount of money to pay for the hospital care of my sister which was stolen by a church pastor and his wife to but Bitcoins my sister died while this evil bastard was preaching at the pulpit and the sick part of this evil is the church has done nothing to stop this evil.
The fact is that the bible was handed down orally for generations, then written by men from eastern countries and translated how many times into how many languages? Reminds me of the story of Santa Clause — based on a real man, but obviously bastardized over many, many years until now we have a man that flys around the world delivering presents to all the people in one night. And we all know as adults that that it is just a sweet, fun and loving fantasy.
No reason not to follow the teachings of Jesus though — he was kind, loving and forgiving, as we all should be towards one another. Belief has never had anything to do with anything. Belief is for kids.
Adults who still believe are stuck, and delusional. Children are told what to think. Part the veil, learn to see. Go through your initiations as they are presented, as they manifest. They are unique for everyone, they are what tease us into experiencing the infinite, rather than the christian error of believing spirit and matter are somehow separate see jesus. I agree with everything you said Carey!
In fact, I have had many conversations with my young adult children about these exact issues. You nailed it! In church they always cater to the married people, and they never care for many of us single people at all. What in the world did we do wrong anyway. Feminism is much worse than cancer now that is caused by women, for which there is no cure. Very impossible to meet a half way decent normal woman anymore these days for many of us good single men really looking. Something else Christians need to stop doing, is calling other Christians as well as non Christians idiots and other disparaging words.
I find this kind of behavior disturbing and morally wrong. Another thing I wish churches and church people would put an end to are cliques. I am shy by nature; always have been, and for a place that is supposed to be warm and welcoming, cliques have a way of making a person feel very isolated. Not all churches, I love my church as a single person.
I hope not too many just got fooled about not judging. Far too many verses on Brother and Sisters in Christ called to judge in the same Bible being used here on this page. Sampson was a judge, and he would not have let you tell him otherwise if you ran up to him and demanded that he stop judging also. If judging was so terrible, then the Bible would not talk about the tribes being ruled by judges and it was a better system than having a king.
I hope not too many weak-minded Christians get tricked into thinking they are not to judge. Paul reproves the believers for their lack of judgment. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? No, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. Forcing believers to take matters into the hands of infidels. Is there really no one among you wise enough to arbitrate between his brothers? Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
It is easy to find Scriptures that command Christians to pass judgment. Six times, in his first letter to the Corinthians, the Apostle Paul instructs believers to judge, and twice he rebukes them for not judging. This page is old, and it still says not to judge. I almost shudder at how many weak Christians got bamboozled into not picking up the Bible and reproving what was just mistakenly posted here.
Spot on. So you eat Jesus? How can a god who knows all screw up so much that he has destroy and murder everyone except Noah and his family and all the animals on the earth? When he supposedly created humans, he would have known they were going to disobey his almighty ass, so why not skip the tree? A work of fiction.
And if you believe this as nonfiction…. God wanted free will in humans. Who do you turn to when things get bad? I have read every post hear carefully and I want to thank Carey. In my life I find some information sweet to hear than eating a sweet food especially if that information touches somewhere in my heart that I always think is another me.
Let me drop my email so you help know who God is and what exactly am supposed to do; godfreyoduor9 gmail. Am saying this with reasons I see and you have also seen around you. Ia Who in this world expect food from sky, falling everyday as your work is to eat, everyone in the world work or have worked for kids to get food available regardless of color, religion or continent. What everyone have seen around them is a lazy man crying for help and hard-working eat well.
I loved it when someone said God is God of order. For many Protestants, this was an emblematic instance of believing something that was literally impossible. Thus in , Sigmund Freud cited the motto as evidence of the infantile nature of religion, which he characterised as always attempting to shield its beliefs from rational scrutiny. Reference works, though generally less partisan, often convey similar sentiments.
Literally Latin , I believe because it is absurd: that is, the very impossibility of a proposition becomes mostly in theology a kind of motivation for belief in it.
Contemporary science vs religion warriors such as Richard Dawkins and Jerry Coyne have predictably followed suit, pointing to Tertullian as a personification of the irrationality of religious belief. Much could be said about the differences and similarities between religious and scientific commitment, but it is worth observing, in brief, that the contemporary sciences afford conspicuous instances of justified belief in both the impossible quantum mechanics and the staggeringly improbable Big Bang cosmology.
Clearly, that remains a live question. Childhood and adolescence. If this were not the case, all honest and intelligent people would accept that God exists, just as all honest and intelligent people accept that black holes exist.
But that is all Christians have. Related Articles. Five days that unravel the Bible. April 5, Put up or shut up. January 28, Why you should rethink your God. August 10, Six things atheists do wrong.
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